mustlovedogs asked:
Hi Everyone, I have been on the internet for about four hours now reading about this condition. After weeks of trying to figure out what was causing his itching with my vet, I finally called the rescue league where I had adopted him from. I knew this puppy’s mom, dad and littermates were all surrendered and they were all adopted prior to us adopting Milo (he was the last one and oh so cute)!! The shelter had him as a German Shepherd,Rottweiller, Collie mix, however, he does look a lot like an Aussie, so either way he is a herding dog. Anyway, when I called the rescue league they had gotten one of the puppies back a couple of weeks ago with a skin condition and the people who had adopted him couldn’t afford him. Since then, the shelter had done skin scrapings on him and couldn’t find anything but had given him Ivermectin injections and is doing considerably better. With this new information and talking to my vet and a dog dermatologist we are going to treat my pup with Revolution. My vet and the other doctor do not feel comfortable as do I to give him Ivermectin as he is a herding dog of some sort. I know the shelter had used it on the other pup, but I don’t want to take that chance. I have found comments both ways on the effectiveness of Revolution. Since this to me seems like the most obvious choice at this point, I have given both of my dogs the first treatment of Revolution this evening. (I have an eight year old beagle I had adopted six years ago and has never even had so much as a flea so this is all new for me). Has anyone had success using Revolution for treating Sarcoptic Mange? And if so, how long did it take for the itching to somewhat subside? Also, my beagle who just appeared with symptoms two days ago seems really out of sorts and is yelping when you touch her, is there anything anyone has used that I could mention to my vet to help relieve them? My vet hasn’t had many cases of this and I just want to be as informed as possible. Also, any suggestions on when I should disinfect my home? Both myself and my husband have broken out with a severe rash as well. As I had mentioned we were dealing with his itching for a few weeks and were treating him for dry skin. We had done skin scrapings and had found nothing. Once I had talked to the shelter and from the information I had gotten from them yesterday have we put the entire puzzle together. I had started with a rash roughly two weeks ago but I had started some new medication and I had also used some new fabric softener so I was in the process of ruling those things out as well, which now I know was not the issue as it didn’t clear up anyway. As soon as I found out yesterday, I got the premetherin cream and myself, husband and child have used it. I was able to get the Revolution for the dogs today and have applied it. For the humans, we have been more itchy today too, so if anyone had to be treated themselves, I would love to know how they made out on the premetherin and how quickly they felt relief. Funny thing, my son has not presented any symptoms at all, but he is being treated as a precaution. Thank you all for any input you will be able to provide.
Hi Everyone, I have been on the internet for about four hours now reading about this condition. After weeks of trying to figure out what was causing his itching with my vet, I finally called the rescue league where I had adopted him from. I knew this puppy’s mom, dad and littermates were all surrendered and they were all adopted prior to us adopting Milo (he was the last one and oh so cute)!! The shelter had him as a German Shepherd,Rottweiller, Collie mix, however, he does look a lot like an Aussie, so either way he is a herding dog. Anyway, when I called the rescue league they had gotten one of the puppies back a couple of weeks ago with a skin condition and the people who had adopted him couldn’t afford him. Since then, the shelter had done skin scrapings on him and couldn’t find anything but had given him Ivermectin injections and is doing considerably better. With this new information and talking to my vet and a dog dermatologist we are going to treat my pup with Revolution. My vet and the other doctor do not feel comfortable as do I to give him Ivermectin as he is a herding dog of some sort. I know the shelter had used it on the other pup, but I don’t want to take that chance. I have found comments both ways on the effectiveness of Revolution. Since this to me seems like the most obvious choice at this point, I have given both of my dogs the first treatment of Revolution this evening. (I have an eight year old beagle I had adopted six years ago and has never even had so much as a flea so this is all new for me). Has anyone had success using Revolution for treating Sarcoptic Mange? And if so, how long did it take for the itching to somewhat subside? Also, my beagle who just appeared with symptoms two days ago seems really out of sorts and is yelping when you touch her, is there anything anyone has used that I could mention to my vet to help relieve them? My vet hasn’t had many cases of this and I just want to be as informed as possible. Also, any suggestions on when I should disinfect my home? Both myself and my husband have broken out with a severe rash as well. As I had mentioned we were dealing with his itching for a few weeks and were treating him for dry skin. We had done skin scrapings and had found nothing. Once I had talked to the shelter and from the information I had gotten from them yesterday have we put the entire puzzle together. I had started with a rash roughly two weeks ago but I had started some new medication and I had also used some new fabric softener so I was in the process of ruling those things out as well, which now I know was not the issue as it didn’t clear up anyway. As soon as I found out yesterday, I got the premetherin cream and myself, husband and child have used it. I was able to get the Revolution for the dogs today and have applied it. For the humans, we have been more itchy today too, so if anyone had to be treated themselves, I would love to know how they made out on the premetherin and how quickly they felt relief. Funny thing, my son has not presented any symptoms at all, but he is being treated as a precaution. Thank you all for any input you will be able to provide.
This is my first post ever to any discussion forum. Found this one with the most intelligent responses, so thank you!
I just want to say thank you all for your input! Is there a way I can respond to your answers?
Antonio
Tags: Hasn, Mom Dad, Sarcoptic Mange
Anita
I’ve never used Revolution, but some people have used *food grade* diatomaceous earth (DE) successfully to treat dogs with mange. It’s safe for dogs (and humans) to injest and sprinkling it on the dog and his sleeping area is also helpful, perhaps around the house as well. From what I’ve read, this kind of mange is highly contagious to other dogs, as well as people.
“Diatomaceous earth is not chemically active but actually kills insects and mites by piercing their exoskeletons and causing them to “leak” and die. DE is not toxic and can even be eaten (it is also used for internal parasites). … Do not purchase the DE that is sold for pool filtration. This DE is not the same thing as needed for parasite control. Buy from a reputable dealer of animal health products.” -
I know this doesn’t answer your question about Revolution, but it might be something to consider in addition to or instead of. And from what I understand, most all mange treatment takes some time.
ADD: This link might be helpful as well:
I might consider using this in addition to DE.
Don
OK, first of all, relax. This is not as bad as it seems.
I’ve rescued a dog with mange before. In fact, I found a dog in the woods with probably the worst case of mange ever. She had, like, 10% of her hair. I’m not joking. Pretty much her entire torso except the area around her spine, the hair was gone. And she was covered in boils and pustules. She constantly scratched so hard that she bled. She yanked tufts of hair and skin off of herself. (She was also only 10 pounds, and she’s a collie/lab mix, so you can imagine how starving she was.)
She had both sarcoptic mange AND the other kind of mange that dogs get.
And she ended up perfectly okay, so your dog will, too.
Okay, so to deal with all of your Q’s, not in order:
1) Humans - humans can’t “catch” the mange that dogs get. The parasites can get on their skin, but they can’t lay eggs there. So it is self-limiting; it can only exist for 2 days on human skin.
2) Skin scrapings - they rarely turn up anything when mange is present. Mange is usually diagnosed with a process of elimination.
3) Your vet - you should probably look to a new vet for this, because you need a vet that KNOWS about treating mange. I don’t think your vet will be offended by this.
4) Disinfecting your home - once your dogs have stopped itching, but are still taking the medicine, is the best time to disinfect. No real point in doing it before then.
5) Ivermectin/Revolution - well, my dog’s case was pretty severe, and I know that her medicine was an antiparasitic; Ivermectin may have been it. It was something we had to spray down her throat. In fact, we had to go back and get a much stronger dose of it because the first one was way too low and didn’t do any good. And she ended up fine, even in her half-starved, weakened state. If you end up having to go for the ivermectin, you really want a vet who knows what he or she is doing, for reasons you already know.
We also used a topical itching ointment for her, and a special shampoo for itchy skin.
6) Duration of itching - I really can’t answer this as my dog’s case of mange was SO severe. It took a few months for it to get better.
Add: here is my mangy girl now. As you can see, she is quite hairy.
Bertha
Long story…
Short answer…
There’s a test your vet can do for the MDR1 gene to see if your dog can safely be given ivermectin.
My Aussie is a “collie breed” and I didn’t know that when I gave him Ivermectin. Since it didn’t kill him when I first gave it to him, he’s safe to receive Ivermectin as he doesn’t have the gene that would cause him to die from the Ivermectin.
Since your dog’s sibling tolerated Ivermectin, your dog probably can be treated with it as well, but the test from healthgene will prove if your dog can be given Ivermectin. Good Luck with your challenges.
oh… if your dog can tolerate Ivermectin, then you can use that to treat it monthly to prevent heartworms. I can tell you how and it saves lots of money. -!-
Matthew
*I adopted a pet that was going to be put down. They said he had mange. All he had was a bad case of fleas. Once I dipped him and got rid of the fleas the hair started to grow back. Before you freak, try the flea approach. I bet you will be amazed.